[huzaifa47]

Originally Posted by feonateresa

I didn't know you could see Toronto from up there o.O
Is there a way, other than that, to get to the mountain on the other side (closer to Mac)? Or do you have to take a bus all the way there from Downtown?

Oh yeah, speaking of waterfalls - where are they? All in East Hamilton?
Does anyone remember what the name of that TLC song? I know it had waterfalls in it... ._.

You can see For miles and miles, like the whole curve of the lake towards Toronto(And most of the skyscrapers, even faint outlines of Toronto Island you can also literally point out burlington,oakville, Sauga etc) as well as the entire expanse of Hamilton. And I wouldn't know of any other way, I only came across the one I mention while going to limeridge(The bus climbs the Access way past the Park). As for the Falls, I've never been to one but they are in the east as well as the west(towards Dundas), I think the most famous ones Webster are towards Dundas.

[Nino]

lol let's try to keep this thread on topic. We are drifting away off topic quite a bit...

[huzaifa47]

Originally Posted by nino

Huzaifa, statistics from the poll on the MSU website will be used to get the general idea of what name most students prefer. Furthermore, from what I've been told, a good number of students left comments too which will also be useful. The statistics from the poll on MacInsiders will definitely be considered as well!

Yeah, I understand that this isn't an official poll, but rather more of a casual outlook onto what students want; but its still a possiblity.
But I would still suggest you guys reconsider(I know you do, but I'm not sure if the higher ups share the same opinion) and take Insiders as a credible source as well(In comparision to saying that JUST the MSU website is the only source), infact just about any thing no matter what form it is, should be considered a "source" by the SRA members, even a drunk guy rambling to his friends in the TSH Washroom on a Thursday night or overhearing two girls complain about student fees before lecture and how the MSU does nothing etc should be considered one and their opinion respected!

[Mowicz]

Originally Posted by huzaifa47

5 Minutes? Where close to Mac can you see the downtown AND the lake from a height?

Therein lies the illusion.

I never said close to Mac...I said I can walk 5 minutes. Because I live on said Escarpment...because we were talking about how Hamilton stinks. You've got to follow the entire conversation, not just jump on the final post in a sequence.

Originally Posted by nino

lol let's try to keep this thread on topic. We are drifting away off topic quite a bit...

Troooooooll.

CAPTCHA's and security for the poll are definitely on-topic. Do you want the naming to be rigged?

Besides, I tried staying on the specific topic of naming earlier, and was criticized. lol

[Nino]

No no, we're definitely not saying MacInsiders isn't a source. MacInsiders is definitely a credible source and we're glad that a poll was set up here! What I was trying to say is that we're trying to get students to use the MSU website as the main source of information. As I mentioned, MacInsiders is definitely a great source and we value every opinion and feedback we get here. We just want students to rely more on the MSU website if you know what I mean.

Mowicz, my last post was directed at the other posts that weren't very relevant to the original topic of the thread. Although the Captcha is a good idea, I highly doubt it would be implemented. The website is being updated by the Board of Directors right now so they may not know too much about setting up a Captcha.

[DavidR]

I know I'm an alumnus and my opinion doesn't really matter... but I've gotta say that I'm extremely disappointed with what the SRA's come up with. I really hope the Engineering SRA caucus I voted for steps up to the plate on this one... but Matt Wright already seems to be playing along and supporting these so I'm not so sure. If they're putting as much thought into the renovations as they did with these names there's no hope for "Union Station".

Union Station? Seriously? How did that even make the short list? On that note, please consider these as well:

First Canadian Place
Scotia Plaza
CN Tower
Brookfield Place
Rogers Centre

Sigh.. Find someone with experience in bars / marketing... cause whatever you're doing is not working. I understand you want to remove the stigma of Quarter's... but even considering naming it after a grimy train station isn't exactly making me hungry.

Sidenote: You'll notice a lot of people are "settling" for 1280 because it's the best of what's provided. That's also not a good thing. You should really have an option where people are like "WOW! That's it!!"... not "It's better than the rest... I guess". Get people EXCITED about the new bar. Get people EXCITED about the name. Generate that social buzz that it's going to need to succeed. If people really liked the options they'd already be cutting off their jean skirts and buying skimpy tops for the first club night.

[maclover]

Wow all the names suggested are so lame... how about another lame name: the Macropolis???

[myoozik]

Originally Posted by DavidR

If people really liked the options they'd already be cutting off their jean skirts and buying skimpy tops for the first club night.

ahahaha

DavidR has a point though. I know that there was an original poll towards the end of the past school year, but most people were actually unsure as to how those names/options came about. They should've created some sort of online competition. I'm sure we don't have a shortage of creativity at MAC and this could've been done a better way.

Perhaps the planning team thinks the new bar's name is trivial since most students are only here for four years and isn't detrimental to the entire operation?

[Duarch]

Originally Posted by maclover

Wow all the names suggested are so lame... how about another lame name: the Macropolis???

There should be a comic book with some hero from.... MACROPOLISSSSSS. His/her super powers can be the ability to financially drain various evil supervillans.

[Matt Wright]

If you would like to check the SRA minutes posted on the MSU website, you will find that I was strictly opposed to these renovations. On numerous occasions I voiced my concern that there was not enough planning or consideration taken before construction began. Referring to the inital allocation of 45000 from the SRA or the final amount of 375000, I again opposed these both.

It is in my own personal opinion that the bar will be finished on time, and will have changed significantly for the better, but this is an ongoing issue that is all but out of my hands. Because I am only 1 vote in the Student Representative Assembly, my vote is often moot when opposed by 34 others.

The naming committee that was initially started in March never included me, nor did they make the poll of the MSU website accessible to myself. This was another giant flaw that was out of my control. In order to be transparent within the MSU, there needs to be a distinct line drawn between student services, and services that students use and generate a profit. This downfall inevitably lead to the predicament that we are now faced with: a bar with no name, and not enough valid suggestions to make it appealing to all students.

Had this entire project been placed in my hands, I would've closed the bar for this school year, laid off all students employed at Quarters, worked out a solid marketing plan for its re-opening, and offered students the chance to have more a voice for their campus bar. Although this seems far-fetched and otherwise impossible, it would've done 3 things: created a campus bar that was the culmination of student voice and input, avoided another 400k loss fiscal year, and last but not least given the MSU a chance to rebuild a broken service.

[DavidR]

I appreciate that you may have opposed it at the beginning, but from your posts around here, at least, it seems as though you've fallen in line with the rest. I guess that's a result of peer pressure from the the SRA. I apologize for pointing you out directly, it's just you're the most active Engineering SRA on Macinsiders - so you came to mind.

You mention that you are just 1 vote... which is true, but don't ever say that that vote doesn't matter. Why did I choose to elect you if you were just going to say "I'm only 1 out of 34". The SRA doesn't always have to be this unanimous body supporting a project. I'd rather see you here speaking against the whole thing - telling people how they can reject ALL of the names, how to rise up and act against the MSU than saying "Let's just say it's called 1280...". To me - that's just a sign of weakness. You're letting the numbers get to you and feeling like you have to go along with it. You state you opposed it from the start - but it sure doesn't look like that to me now.

Again, I don't mean to attack you personally, Matt; you're just the one that's active here. I'm sure there are many other SRA members in the same boat as you - feeling powerless against the big bad MSU. It's the kind of uncertain support of things like this that have brought the MSU down to the level it's at today. People who are willing to speak out... consistently... against (and for) things are needed.

If (some of) the SRA doesn't believe in it, and (most of) the student body doesn't believe in it - how is it ever going to succeed?

My 2cents.

[blairwoods]

1280 pleasee

[Infinity]

wow these names are terrible..... 1280 is decent... but really these names are sooooo lame.

Like why can't it be something awesome like Puzzles?

[lorend]

The Union I could deal with (same with 1280).

However, when people would ask the Compass CSRs where Union Station is, there is going to be confusion.

People come at night and ask the CSRs a lot of questions (like how to get to Union in Toronto, how to get to Quarters, what's the fastest way to the Buffalo airport, where CFMU is, how do I take out a bank loan etc), and having a bar with the same name would get confusing and irritating for the staff.

[Matt Wright]

Originally Posted by DavidR

You mention that you are just 1 vote... which is true, but don't ever say that that vote doesn't matter. Why did I choose to elect you if you were just going to say "I'm only 1 out of 34". The SRA doesn't always have to be this unanimous body supporting a project. I'd rather see you here speaking against the whole thing - telling people how they can reject ALL of the names, how to rise up and act against the MSU than saying "Let's just say it's called 1280...". To me - that's just a sign of weakness. You're letting the numbers get to you and feeling like you have to go along with it. You state you opposed it from the start - but it sure doesn't look like that to me now.

Again, I don't mean to attack you personally, Matt; you're just the one that's active here. I'm sure there are many other SRA members in the same boat as you - feeling powerless against the big bad MSU. It's the kind of uncertain support of things like this that have brought the MSU down to the level it's at today. People who are willing to speak out... consistently... against (and for) things are needed.

If (some of) the SRA doesn't believe in it, and (most of) the student body doesn't believe in it - how is it ever going to succeed?

My 2cents.

“Great minds have purposes; little minds have wishes. Little minds are subdued by misfortunes; great minds rise above them.” - Washington Irving


The Quarters project is a monstrous obstacle in the way of the MSU. I am not here to please the SRA, the MSU, or any other subsidiary. I am here to represent the faculty of engineering. My purpose on the SRA is to ensure that students are represented. I do not have wishes for the MSU, I have plans for it. With the support of engineering, these plans will be achieved and the MSU will be used to its fullest potential.